Fair enough about the red FXOs, when filming so many different scenes you lose track of what cars you have and haven't used But the main car is of course modelled with a Vauxhall Astra skin to help differentiate.

No, the suspense comes from the fact that you don't know why the Toyota is chasing the Vauxhall. As I said before, this works on the same basis as the movies Duel and Grindhouse: Death Proof.

Quote from logitekg25 :

how hard would it be to edit in skidmarks? i wouldnt know

EDIT: and another suggestion, when most people shift out of park/neutral, they step on the brakes (in the begginning) and when he stops to let the other guy go in the parking lot, he seemed to SLAM on the brakes...and you said earlier you made it without knowing why the guy was chasing her/him (high heels in begginning?) on purpose, do you have an idea why?

Now you're just nitpicking But as was stated before, skid marks were disabled since the tracks were covered in them which wouldn't look good for takes. And I don't really understand your other point to be honest.

Quote from andRo. :

That was really nice. I see lots of work done to make this short "film". Good work guys...maybe the ending could of been different, I was waiting for something like they crash etc. But those sound effects etc. were really good.

As Luke said, we were considering that but to be honest I felt that the final ending actually worked out better, as I triumphantly drive off into the distance after causing such chaos.

Quote from Migz :

Obviously all the Teh Carl movies.

Then having a quick look to try and find some of the old movies i liked there was these.

Welcome To LFS 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNKfipLHtP4

RTN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?g ... p;hl=es&v=G7IjUrG73Cg

Design Dudes - Two Years Of Creative Madness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?g ... p;hl=de&v=eNCGZmX9__M

Live For Speed S2 - Why I Play
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAvj0iY1Zig

Short Movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2w6ZviyQWU&fmt=18

But i cant really compare your movie to any of the others, because yours is more an action movie.

But i dunno, it seemed a bit empty? At heart all your was, was two guys racing about making other cars crash. Maybe some sort of storyline wouldve helped.

Maybe the main driver is an ex pro racer, and the other guy is just some idiot with a powerful car. Therefore throughout the whole movie you would see the ex pro racer doing unbelivably skillfull driving such as perfect racing line, weaving in and out of traffic beautifully, perhaps even getting the back out and drifting around a corner or two. While the other guy who is less skilled but has the more powerful car manages to not crash but was only managing to keep up due to him having a more poweful car?

Or you could of had lets say three people on the bad guys side? And they're all terrorising the first driver, but one by one the first guy manges to take them off until he gets to the third and final guy who is the leader/best driver.

I dunno im crap at ideas, but what you made was just a movie full of driving and crashing. It was good driving, and good crashing, and even a good movie but i dunno it was just missing something?

I should explain that my intention was to make it feel like an authentic movie car chase, nothing more nothing less, which isn't something that is done very often here since LFS is, afterall, a racing simulation so I appreciate that it won't appeal to everyone.

As for the lack of plot, this was all deliberate. It works on the same basis as Duel and Grindhouse - you don't know why the other driver is so intent on chasing his target down which adds to the suspense factor. So I don't feel my desired effect would have been quite as accomplished.

As a response to a few other criticisms, I did my best to iron out any possible flaws but there were some things that were simply unavoidable at the time. We tried various setups but the ones we used in the end had the desired effect, so I was happy with them. There are probably many other goofs that nobody has mentioned too, which for a project of this ambitious nature (bare in mind too that this was our first ever LFS movie) is inevitable. As Mp3 Astra said, try to imagine it outside of LFS

Last edited by Start Wars, Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:52.

The Youtube links are now up everyone! And in HD.

Last edited by Start Wars, Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:07.

Having to contend with so many sound files in one project probably wasn't going to be flawless. I hate to think how many sounds were used in this project - you should see the project window

Quote from Mp3 Astra :

Finally got to watch it and...

It was worth the wait!

I'm a big fan of Ronin, to which you compare your video. There were so many action-packed scenes and some very good driving from the lead characters. The sounds were really good; some of the crashing sounds could have been slightly better but they really added a lot to the video. Did you take some of the crashing and horn noises from Ronin?

The music fitted the action really well and some of the crashes were mind-blowing, especially the XRT's flip into the traffic jam.

I have to say, this was much better than the trailer you released; and that was pretty darn good! I'd definitely rank this LFS movie in the top 3 of the year so far. Don't be surprised if you're nominated for the movie awards this year...

Glad you liked it MP3Astra! Yes, I am probably the biggest fan of movie car chases which I think showed in this movie, I really wanted to translate that into an LFS machinima as best as I could. You are right, I used the sounds from Ronin at one point along with an insane amount of other movies. In fact, Ronin even makes a cameo appearance if you look closer at some shots...

Were there any crash sounds in particular you thought could be better? I really scoured hard to find the best sounds I could to fit the scenes as convincingly as possible so I am curious.

For my first movie to be even nominated for the LFS movie of the year would be such an honour. I just tried to do something original.

Quote from BigTime :

Movie of the year, hands down. :bowdown:

Thanks BigTime, means a lot to see you say that

Quote from Lynce :

Dowloaded and watched in HQ.

A lot of work in your movie production. Nice imagination with Skins to differentiate models and give more variety.

Astonishing work. I love the RB4 vs UF1000 part on Fern Bay and, finally, poor UF1000,hahahaha.

I love all sounds there (except engine, I think can be better but don't worry).

The sounds in damage scene and music tension is absolutelly perfect and brilliant.

Mate, this is the Pursuit movie reference.

I hope you can make Collateral colision 2?

Glad to see movies with talent people as you and staff that helped you. Very entertaining.

Sorry by my poor english.

Thank you very much Lynce Very glad you enjoyed it.

The Youtube upload is going rather slowly. Part 1 seems to be up, but it isn't in HQ or HD yet - presumably it still needs time to fully process it?

Quote from Drift King CZ :

Absolutely brilliant work! There's only 1 scene, I think... where I saw the cars without any damage, but never mind. Still, super work.

Thanks! And much work there was too. I'm sure there are many continuity errors in the film but it's quite a task to manage. I suppose you could say it is all the more movie like if it has goofs

Quote from anbiddulph :

engine sounds from GT4?

Maybe I have to say though it took a very long time just to record and then dub those engine sounds throughout the film!

Thanks for the comments so far!

Glad you enjoyed it ATC Quicksilver, with regards to your feedback it would be quite hard to disguise the roll setups, and the scene where the main car didn't load properly it was again difficult to remove this due to server lag and I had to include the whole shot in that instance otherwise it wouldn't have worked. Anyway, I'm glad you liked it, it is always very rewarding to finally gather feedback after working for so long on a project.

Quote from morpha :

Wow, it's either very long, inefficiently compressed or just awesome quality. Well I'm downloading

It's all 3 probably But yes it is a long movie and at high quality.

After all this time, it is finally up:

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=59884

Enjoy everyone. And the Youtube version is uploading as I speak - it should be up in around an hour or so in 2 parts.

It's here.

Download link (recommended) - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CMEZP6OC

Youtube

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYCcf6aCJPQ
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... JES-w&feature=related

Launch Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... e=channel_page&fmt=22

The Influences - http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=65017

The Outtakes - http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1410352#post1410352

The initial trailer - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=q2nlhf-pSi0

Polepositiondriver's verdict - http://www.polepositiondriver. ... ateral-collission-review/

Desktop wallpapers - http://www.mediafire.com/?shar ... 677bb26856038a50303f2c4f6

The long awaited Collateral Collision is finally here, which marks our first ever venture into LFS movie making.

Pushing the boundaries of the racing simulation Live For Speed, Collateral Collision is the result of a huge collaborative effort from the Live For Speed community, along with my dedicated passion for movie car chases. Our aim was simple - to deliver the most authentic representation of a movie car chase that was physically possible within the realms of a machinima film.

As a result, Collateral Collision was a hugely ambitious project, with incredibly long filming times and editing sessions. Not a second that you see has been overlooked and every sound you hear has been meticiously dubbed from other sources. To say the least, a tremendous amount of effort has been put into this project, in terms of both the filming and the editing.

To put it simply, we feel that Collateral Collision is the most definitive and comprehensive machinima car chase experience, which aims to mimic the likes of car chase staples such as Gone in 60 Seconds, Bullitt and Ronin.

As a lone driver sets off, little does he know that another malicious driver is about to give pursuit, with dire consequences that result in a grueling chase sequence of life and death. Think of it as Duel meets Grindhouse: Death Proof.

Enjoy.

Last edited by Start Wars, Sat, 17 Apr 2010 00:05.

I'm back everyone, from a hard day's work

Thank you so much to Adrian for submitting the review to polepositiondriver.com, it is greatly appreciated and your comments were very kind indeed.

Polepositiondriver.com will have a dedicated page with the videos embedded at some point, but for now I do not want to give a specific time of release as it is impossible to say. It will be posted whenever it has finished uploaded, which should be later on this evening, hopefully after 6pm tonight A download link along with a 2 part youtube video will be posted.

So sit tight!

Quote from Luke.S :

I'm really looking forwards to this release.

Just hope your cpu doesn't crap out by then



Oh and if anyone wants it there is a desktop background

3000x1876

That's great

It's coming.

I'm pleased to announce that the release for the long awaited Collateral Collision project is finally imminent!

For those that either weren't around or have since forgotten, Collateral Collision is a huge video project that myself and Unknownrisks undertook, designed to be the most authentic machinima car chase experience in LFS. All I will say is that it strays outside the racing boundaries of LFS - think Duel meets Grindhouse: Death Proof.

I'm sorry it's taken this long to put everything together, but hopefully you will find that all of your efforts were worth it in the end.

We are hoping to release Collateral Collision on Monday the 27th July.

As a reminder, you can view the teaser trailer which we posted last year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... &feature=channel_page

Thank you everyone for your patience and we look forward to presenting the final release - I can assure you that a tremendous amount of effort has been put into this project, in terms of both the filming and the editing, so fasten your seatbelt!

In the meantime, why not download some desktop backgrounds of our new logo?

Last edited by Start Wars, Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:00.

Certainly one of the best LFS movies I've seen in a while - the sound really makes this movie.

Fantastic work squidhead, I particularly liked the night time filter you used, it creates a real sense of atmosphere, as did the sound effects used throughout. Looking forward to more

Indeed, I can confirm that Collateral Collision will have a different theme to Teh Carl. And thanks bavorak

Really who by?

Which competition are you referring to?

Looks like a promising site, I am currently uploading my trailer Hopefully it will still be around in time for my full release